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	<title>Comments on: Why bovine breastfeeding comparisons leave me cold</title>
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	<description>musings and the occasional feistiness about breastfeeding</description>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.lactivistleanings.com/uncategorized/why-bovine-bfing-comparisons-leave-me-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-3953</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m currently pumping for my second (and final) child. I have used the bovine reference more than a handful of times regarding myself and other pumping mamas that I know very well. Always as a compliment. I think cows are beautiful animals (not dumb, fat or lazy!) who provide nourishment for both their calves and some humans. Although some may find fault with the fact that the cow doesn&#039;t CHOOSE to be milked for human consumption, to me it doesn&#039;t negatively color the comparison. A nursing mama being &quot;milked&quot; by a pump is identical to a cow being &quot;milked&quot; by a machine. And if a pumping mama is very adept at it, why NOT compare her to an animal who excels at the very same task? They both are providing nourishment and being successful at it.

Although I don&#039;t agree with the majority viewpoint expressed here, I can certainly appreciate that some portion of nursing mamas out there do not enjoy being compared to our bovine counterparts. As such, I will make an effort to refrain from using the analogy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m currently pumping for my second (and final) child. I have used the bovine reference more than a handful of times regarding myself and other pumping mamas that I know very well. Always as a compliment. I think cows are beautiful animals (not dumb, fat or lazy!) who provide nourishment for both their calves and some humans. Although some may find fault with the fact that the cow doesn&#8217;t CHOOSE to be milked for human consumption, to me it doesn&#8217;t negatively color the comparison. A nursing mama being &#8220;milked&#8221; by a pump is identical to a cow being &#8220;milked&#8221; by a machine. And if a pumping mama is very adept at it, why NOT compare her to an animal who excels at the very same task? They both are providing nourishment and being successful at it.</p>
<p>Although I don&#8217;t agree with the majority viewpoint expressed here, I can certainly appreciate that some portion of nursing mamas out there do not enjoy being compared to our bovine counterparts. As such, I will make an effort to refrain from using the analogy.</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 04:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t made the comparison, that I can recall. I haven&#039;t even really heard the comparison to speak of. Maybe because I don&#039;t know many pumping moms? In Canada we have year-long maternity leaves, so pumping is much less common.

I will say that as a lactating woman I feel a sort of kinship with other lactating mammals that I didn&#039;t before. When I visit a dairy farm and see cows ready to be milked, I feel that physical too-full sensation in sympathy. But this isn&#039;t specific to cows, exactly.

I suppose, in the end, I agree that the comparison normalizes cow&#039;s milk over breast milk. Much like the word &#039;milk&#039; itself, which in our culture means, &#039;a bottle of cow&#039;s milk in the fridge&#039;. We&#039;ve given all things milk over to the bovine set, and that&#039;s not really good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t made the comparison, that I can recall. I haven&#8217;t even really heard the comparison to speak of. Maybe because I don&#8217;t know many pumping moms? In Canada we have year-long maternity leaves, so pumping is much less common.</p>
<p>I will say that as a lactating woman I feel a sort of kinship with other lactating mammals that I didn&#8217;t before. When I visit a dairy farm and see cows ready to be milked, I feel that physical too-full sensation in sympathy. But this isn&#8217;t specific to cows, exactly.</p>
<p>I suppose, in the end, I agree that the comparison normalizes cow&#8217;s milk over breast milk. Much like the word &#8216;milk&#8217; itself, which in our culture means, &#8216;a bottle of cow&#8217;s milk in the fridge&#8217;. We&#8217;ve given all things milk over to the bovine set, and that&#8217;s not really good.</p>
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		<title>By: Dionna @ Code Name: Mama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dionna @ Code Name: Mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 01:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t read the comments, so forgive me if I&#039;m duplicating something, but here&#039;s how I feel: a few weeks ago we took Kieran to a local dairy. He got to milk a cow and seen cows milked by a machine. A week or so later we were talking about it, and he said something about the cow &quot;peeing.&quot;
Ew.
I think I might have to reference your post in one of my own ;)
You&#039;ve definitely hit the highlights on why it&#039;s ridiculous to be compared to bovines!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t read the comments, so forgive me if I&#8217;m duplicating something, but here&#8217;s how I feel: a few weeks ago we took Kieran to a local dairy. He got to milk a cow and seen cows milked by a machine. A week or so later we were talking about it, and he said something about the cow &#8220;peeing.&#8221;<br />
Ew.<br />
I think I might have to reference your post in one of my own <img src='http://www.lactivistleanings.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
You&#8217;ve definitely hit the highlights on why it&#8217;s ridiculous to be compared to bovines!</p>
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		<title>By: LeaningLactivist</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeaningLactivist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, for me there is also a really large component of the UNnatural that comes into play as well since pumping moms aren&#039;t compared to free-range cows but the factory dairy-farm versions that are mechanically milked. 

I like that instructor you had. Her imagery might also have been an attempt to give moms an active animal to identify with that would defend her young like that mama bear we&#039;re always calling upon. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, for me there is also a really large component of the UNnatural that comes into play as well since pumping moms aren&#8217;t compared to free-range cows but the factory dairy-farm versions that are mechanically milked. </p>
<p>I like that instructor you had. Her imagery might also have been an attempt to give moms an active animal to identify with that would defend her young like that mama bear we&#8217;re always calling upon. <img src='http://www.lactivistleanings.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: caramama</title>
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		<dc:creator>caramama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 19:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I have mixed feelings on this. Mostly, I view the act of nursing one we do as mammals. Since the mammals known best for their milk production are cows, it seems natural that the comparison is made--especially since pumping is so similar to cow&#039;s being pumped for their milk. Afterall, what other animal comes to mind when you think of a machine pumping milk out of a mammal? But in our culture, unlike other cultures, we do have negative connotations with cows, as you pointed out. 

So my mixed feelings really are: Should we embrace the term to show the naturalness of the act or should we try to get away from the term in order to avoid negative connotations? I just don&#039;t have a good answer.

In the breastfeeding class at the hospital I took many years ago, the woman leading the class told women to them of themselves as tigers who nurse their young. I think she was trying to give us a better image than that of the &quot;dumb&quot; cow who is just used for her milk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I have mixed feelings on this. Mostly, I view the act of nursing one we do as mammals. Since the mammals known best for their milk production are cows, it seems natural that the comparison is made&#8211;especially since pumping is so similar to cow&#8217;s being pumped for their milk. Afterall, what other animal comes to mind when you think of a machine pumping milk out of a mammal? But in our culture, unlike other cultures, we do have negative connotations with cows, as you pointed out. </p>
<p>So my mixed feelings really are: Should we embrace the term to show the naturalness of the act or should we try to get away from the term in order to avoid negative connotations? I just don&#8217;t have a good answer.</p>
<p>In the breastfeeding class at the hospital I took many years ago, the woman leading the class told women to them of themselves as tigers who nurse their young. I think she was trying to give us a better image than that of the &#8220;dumb&#8221; cow who is just used for her milk.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 03:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d never thought of it negatively.  One of my daughter&#039;s favorite books was one about farms.  She pointed out &quot;mommy cow&quot;, &quot;daddy cow&quot;, &quot;baby brother cow&quot;, &quot;grandpa cow&quot;, etc.  She was quite fascinated by watching calves nurse &quot;just like her brother&quot; when we were at the state fair last summer.  I found her calling me mommy cow adorable and now use it as a screen name for my blog.  It&#039;s certainly not meant to offend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d never thought of it negatively.  One of my daughter&#8217;s favorite books was one about farms.  She pointed out &#8220;mommy cow&#8221;, &#8220;daddy cow&#8221;, &#8220;baby brother cow&#8221;, &#8220;grandpa cow&#8221;, etc.  She was quite fascinated by watching calves nurse &#8220;just like her brother&#8221; when we were at the state fair last summer.  I found her calling me mommy cow adorable and now use it as a screen name for my blog.  It&#8217;s certainly not meant to offend.</p>
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		<title>By: Megan at SortaCrunchy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan at SortaCrunchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 03:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly?  I&#039;ve always inwardly cringed at the comparison, too.  I never could quite my finger on it, but yeah.  You capture it here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly?  I&#8217;ve always inwardly cringed at the comparison, too.  I never could quite my finger on it, but yeah.  You capture it here.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie Yagiela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonnie Yagiela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 02:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer to use the term &quot; Milk Goddess&quot; for a Mom with a good supply.  I think it sounds more complementary.  I also tell a Mom who is pumping for a little one in the NICU to be a &quot; Pumping Queen.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer to use the term &#8221; Milk Goddess&#8221; for a Mom with a good supply.  I think it sounds more complementary.  I also tell a Mom who is pumping for a little one in the NICU to be a &#8221; Pumping Queen.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: LeaningLactivist</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeaningLactivist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 02:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve compared my girls to monkeys. I&#039;m actually the mamatree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve compared my girls to monkeys. I&#8217;m actually the mamatree.</p>
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		<title>By: LeaningLactivist</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeaningLactivist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 02:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL! :D Isn&#039;t it great that you can?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL! <img src='http://www.lactivistleanings.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  Isn&#8217;t it great that you can?</p>
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